Fathers and the Unexpected with David Smyth and Dawn McAvoy. Legacy Podcast S1E3

Fathers and the Unexpected with David Smyth and Dawn McAvoy. Legacy Podcast S1E3

“We can’t prepare our kids for every eventuality. So much about fatherhood is unexpected. There will be challenges our children encounter that we simply can’t forecast. But then again, the job is to be a good parent, not a good prophet.”

Join co-hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with David Smyth and Dawn McAvoy from Evangelical Alliance and Both Lives Matter.

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Fathers and the Unexpected – Article by Stephen Mullan.

We’re back with another episode from the Legacy Podcast. I found this to be another really helpful conversation that gets into all sorts of important topics. Thanks to David Smyth and Dawn McIvoy from Evangelical Alliance for being great contributors.

On the back of the conversation, I’ve been thinking that we can’t prepare our kids for every eventuality. So much about fatherhood is unexpected. There will be challenges our children encounter that we simply can’t forecast. But then again, the job is to be a good parent, not a good prophet.

Stories prepare our children for the unexpected

One way we can give our children the resources they need for the unknowable future is through telling stories.

In the podcast, David points to storytelling as a way to prepare our kids for whatever lies ahead. I’ve thought about this before, but only in terms of reading good books to my own children. I’m excited to pass on the old tales and fables, as well as the modern classics like Narnia and Lord of the Rings. What I hadn’t thought about before was the value of my own stories or the tales from my family. I appreciate David’s encouragement to tell more of these to my children.

Stories help prepare children for the unknown.

When we tell good stories:

  • We introduce our children to role models and heroes to imitate.
  • We fill their imagination with visions of a good life.
  • We teach them to take a long view – it takes a journey and many obstacles to reach our goals and to become who we’re made to be.
  • We connect their individual life to something larger than themselves.
  • We inspire them to stand for good and to fight against evil.

Crucially, stories shape our children’s sense of identity and purpose – two realities that will hold them as they navigate the future.

Where do we start all of this?

First, let’s embrace our job as storytellers. Let’s find good stories and tell them often. That might mean asking for recommendations and spending some money. But while I will definitely be buying more books, my major take-away from our conversation with David is that my children need to hear more stories from my own life and my parents’ and grandparents’ lives.

When the unexpected happens, say something certain

As time passes by, our children will inevitably experience the unexpected.

In the second part of our podcast conversation, Dawn talked in depth about one significant example – unplanned pregnancy. But there are many other examples.
The point that struck me, however, was the power of a father to give his children hope through how he responds to the unexpected.

In Dawn’s own case, the response of her dad gave her the support she needed during an unplanned pregnancy. The certainty that her dad was going to be part of her circle of support made all the difference and encouraged her to move forward as a young mum.

Sadly, when men don’t give this kind of support to their partner or daughter, the likelihood of abortion skyrockets. As Dawn puts it: “among women who terminate their pregnancy, 82% are single … the lack of support persuades them to terminate the pregnancy.”

This is a message dads don’t hear enough: our words matter – and they especially matter during times of unplanned crisis.
When we look our children in the eye and assure them of our full support, regardless of the mess and pain that must be faced, we fill them with hope and give them confidence to move forward. We guarantee them that however difficult the next few steps will be, they can count on Dad to be on their side.

Practically, that means we need to be ready to speak to our children with certainty. One word Andy Lamberton encourages dads to use more often is ‘always’. I like that advice.

  • “You can always come talk to me.”
  • “I’ll always be here for you.”
  • “I will always love you.”

Said with sincerity, words like these can be the lifeline that gets our children through the challenge.

Did you enjoy the podcast? please share with other fathers you know and tell us what you think. Email: hello@legacyfathers.org 

By Stephen Mullan
Cohost of the Legacy Podcast.

Bio:
Stephen directs the work of Dreamscheme Northern Ireland, a youth work charity that provides support and opportunities to young people growing up in housing estates. He also writes on the subject of youth via his newsletter Rethinking Youth. Stephen is married to Sharon and has two young children.

Fathers and the Unexpected with David Smyth and Dawn McAvoy. Legacy Podcast S1E3

Failing Forward with Graeme Thompson. Legacy Podcast S1E2

“Despite the best of intentions, we can soon find ourselves fumbling our way through fatherhood. As Christians, however, failure is not final.”

Join hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with Graeme Thompson about failing forward.

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Failing Forward Article by Stephen Mullan.

In our second episode of the Legacy Podcast, Graeme Thompson talks about how dads can move forward from failure. It’s a hope-filled episode that I hope you enjoy as much as I did.

Failure comes in all sorts of flavours. As dads, we all know where we’ve personally messed up – whether we’ve not been present or yelled too much or been too passive. Despite the best of intentions, we can soon find ourselves fumbling our way through fatherhood.
As Christians, however, failure is not final. We serve a God of grace who gives second and third and fourth chances. Read Nehemiah 9, if you need a reminder. After a long account of the repeated failures of Israel, we get this gem in verse 31:

“Nevertheless, in your great mercies you did not make an end of them or forsake them, for you are a gracious and merciful God.” Nehemiah 9:31

Confidence in God’s goodness needs to be at the foundation of our fatherhood journey. His grace makes progress and recovery possible. But we also need to take responsibility for our family’s situation and work to make things better.

One of things I appreciated most about this episode was how Graeme encouraged dads to zoom out of the present situation to see fatherhood as a long journey – or as he put it, as one long conversation. Like a marathon race or a mountain trek, the key to getting to the finish is about taking the next step.

Take one step forward’

My favourite phrase in the conversation with Graeme is this: ‘There’s always a step you can take.’ It is incredibly practical. No matter how messy things have got, there is hope and there is a step forward available. It might just involve some thought and prayer.

Family life won’t be transformed overnight but tomorrow can be better. Graeme encourages failing dads to cast a vision for the short-term. Where do you want your family to be in a month? in a year?

What shift do you want to see? What atmosphere do you want to cultivate? What kind of relationships do you want to have?

With this vision in mind, start with one small step forward.

This might mean a small change to your morning routine – “I’m going to wake 30 mins before everyone else to pray for my kids.” It might mean a small change to your week’s priorities – “I’m going to block in family time.” It might mean a small change to how you speak or listen – “I’m going to ask about the children’s day before I talk about my own day.”
It might mean a difficult but long-overdue conversation; it might mean you turn up for the first time in a long time; it might mean the courage to finally say, ‘I’m sorry’.

Whatever it is, let’s commit to taking one step forward this week.

A final point worth stressing is that we aren’t meant to do this fatherhood journey alone. Friendship is often the first thing guys sacrifice when family life gets busy. But we need the support of friends – we need a band of brothers. Men tend to isolate themselves. We focus on work and family: the former with structure and intentionality and the latter lacking. Friends remind us of what’s important and often point out the obvious. 

Graeme encourages us to invite old friends back into our lives – or to reach out and find some new ones. We desperately need their encouragement for the long journey of fatherhood. As Christian fathers, we need the Body of Christ. We need their prayers as we fumble and fail and try to take the next step forward.

Did you enjoy the podcast? please share with other fathers you know and tell us what you think. Email: hello@legacyfathers.org 

By Stephen Mullan
Cohost of the Legacy Podcast.

Bio:
Stephen directs the work of Dreamscheme Northern Ireland, a youth work charity that provides support and opportunities to young people growing up in housing estates. He also writes on the subject of youth via his newsletter Rethinking Youth. Stephen is married to Sharon and has two young children.